有的…有的… — Partition: of one group, some do this and some do that.

grammar → 有的…有的…

TSUMUGU · TBCL 2 (est.) · 語法

有的…有的… grammar point · tier 2 · 有的…有的… some… others…

Partition: of one group, some do this and some do that.

字源 FORM what the parts do

有 names that there are some, the existing-among-many sense; 的 turns it into 'the ones.' Said again, it carves a second batch out of the same group.

故事 STORY a scene to remember it by

One basket tips out; some marbles roll left, some roll right.

字源自撰記憶法

框 · Frame

[group]，有的 [predicate A]，有的 [predicate B]

觸 · Trigger

One group in mind, and its members split between two cases.

序 · The move

1name the whole group firstis there one shared group the subsets come from?

2有的 + what the first batch does

3有的 again + what the second batch doesdo both batches come from that same group, not separate things?

例 · Examples

1班上in the class的同學classmates有的some (of them)會can說speak英文English，有的會說法文French。

Of the classmates, some can speak English, some can speak French.

界 · Boundary

跟 / 和 list

有的…有的… splits one group into batches; a 跟/和 list joins separate items side by side. Partition needs a shared whole upstream; a list does not.

一…就…

有的…有的… repeats to split a group two ways; 一…就… pairs a trigger with its instant result. The repetition divides a whole; the trigger fires a consequence.

listing unrelated things: 有的喜歡茶，有的喜歡爬山 → 有的喜歡茶，有的喜歡咖啡 (subsets of one shared choice)

no group named: 有的會說英文，有的會說法文 → 同學有的會說英文，有的會說法文

single 有的 for a two-way split: 有的會說英文 → 有的會說英文，有的會說法文

English 'some… some… / some… others…' maps cleanly, but learners drop the second 有的 or omit the heading group that the partition runs on.